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  Need your thoughts... Again

  by Garrett in

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  (sorry for any typos, i'm on my ipad) so, remember how in my last post i mentioned that i had told some of my dear friends why i decided to leave?

  well, one of those friends was a girl... not just any girl, but rather, a girl that i've loved since the moment i've met her.

  she used to say that she considered me her best friend and we were really close she just never really returned my feelings for her due to different circumstances i presume.. but i always felt a connection.. anyways, after telling her that i decided to leave because of multiple reasons but that the tolerance of child sex abuse was the final straw, she responded asking where i got my information and that she wanted to talk about it with me.. this feels like an opportunity for me to tell her about my findings, what do you think?

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  you got the cat out of the bag already. You cant un-say what you said. Go ahead
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

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  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  Viviane

  Basically, to leave the world a better place is why you do it.

  Agree, we all want a better place where discrimination is based solely on merit. You just don't fight dogma with more dogma. Let the idiots ridicule themselves into oblivion. That's a better way to deal with religious zealots.

  Don't feed their sense of persecution and therefore a divine purpose.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

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  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  DJS,

  It seems that we agree. As a matter of principle I am OK with the right to discriminate for whatever reason, except for state funded institutions. However, I can easily compromise on applying non-discrimination laws to business, but I am not ready to do away with the first amendment as it applies to legitimate not-for-profit religions.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  DJS

  Within a generation or so this will be a moot point. Gay marriage and equal access will be the norm, and people in the future will look back at the haters in 2015 and compare them to the KKK and other 20th Century hate mongers. And that's not an opinion.

  Agree. However, religions, under the first amendment, should have the right to their own religious ceremonies. In the mean time the state can provide non-religious ceremonies for anyone that looks humans and breathes. Christians have a very good point for refusing same sex marriage, they believe the Bible is the word of God, and the Bible condemns homosexuality. It's their own stupid belief and they should have the right to exercise it.

  My point remains: why would a homosexual couple wants to be married by a group of people who condemns them to hell or whatever the latest belief is. I feel they, the supporters of forcing religions to marry homosexual couples, want to be jerks too.

  You should be more riled up about the right given to JW parents to refuse life saving transfusion for their children. That's way more important. Children die as a result of this religious belief, which is also protected by the first amendment.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  JD,

  Sorry, I must have dyslexia. It should have been DJS
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
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  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  This whole thread is an exercise in futility. Why would anyone want to force homosexuals into a homophobic group. You guys remind me of the biblical text where Israelite raped women were given into permanent bond and submission to their rapists. What?!!!

  In fact, why would women want to be part of a misogynistic group is astounding. Do as Thomas Jefferson did, cut the unpleasant parts of the Bible and create a new form of Christianity. Go even further, make God a woman or gay, or lesbian and form your own group, get baptized and married there, surrounded by people who share your values. I have a lot more respect for this arrangement than I do for the masochist suggestions here. In fact I commit to donating $100.00 to this type of creative and practical effort.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

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  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  JD

  Who said every libertarian worships Ms. Rand or even gives a rip about libertarian politicians. I don't follow humans. I embrace principle. You implies lot of stuff that is completely unsupported by anything that I have written.
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  Petition to Revoke Scientology's Tax Exempt Status

  by ABibleStudent in

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  fyi, if you feel that scientology's tax-exempt status should be revoked, you can sign a white house petition to revoke its tax-exempt status at https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/revoke-scientologys-tax-exempt-status.. i signed the petition even though i have mixed feelings about this petition.

  i would prefer that dangerous cults like scientology be reformed by suspending its tax-exempt status until it makes needed changes and i do not like targeting a specific organization when the whole system should be changed.

  on the other hand this type of action may help to promote debate about revising the tax codes in the us.. i do prefer revising the tax code like i wrote about in revise tax code to protect children from sexual abuse .. peace be with you and everyone, who you love,.

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  I would sign it if it applies to any religion that is unable to demonstrate that they employ a significant portion of their funds for the relief of the physical pain and basic needs of the needy.
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  How do you feel about religion as a whole?

  by FatherFirst in

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  it just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.

  just curious, a personal poll if you will.

  what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?

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  never a jw

  How do you feel about religion as a whole?

  It's full of it, but makes fairy tale believers happy. Why not
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  JD,

  You made quite a great deal of assumptions about me, just because I believe in the greatest amount freedom possible for organized society. You confirmed it, the Christian in you still alive and well.

  By the way, I realized that libertarianism is only possible when most people believe in it. I am not trying to persuade anyone to become one. Just expressing my ideals. Ultimately, for the real world, where you have more than 7 billion minds pursuing their own personal interest, the Socratic doctrine of moderation is a lot more practical than the utopic ideals of libertarians. I hope this makes you less of a hater of anyone who disagrees with you in public policy.

  You hate lawyers. I don't.

  Your Avatar is quite deceptive, does not reflect how you write.